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Marvin Haberland

To Robert Koch Institute Details

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply of May 28, 2025, to my IFG application of January 30, 2025.

You write that no negative controls were carried out with healthy patient samples during virus cultivation or genome sequencing of measles or SARS-CoV-2 viruses, as these methods are only carried out with "pre-analyzed samples" in which the virus has already been detected by PCR or sequencing.

I have the following questions:

Scientific evidence without negative controls:

You confirm that no negative controls with healthy samples are included in genome sequencing. How can scientifically sound pathogen detection be achieved under these conditions if there is no control to safeguard against false-positive results? From a scientific perspective, the sole use of PCR methods without independent validation through controls does not constitute reliable evidence, but rather circulates a presupposed hypothesis—a classic circular argument.

Commitment to DFG Guideline 11:

According to the guidelines of the German Research Foundation (DFG), in particular Guideline 11, all methods used must be controlled to ensure valid results. How is this requirement met for virus cultivation and genome sequencing if—as you write—no negative controls are included?

I request a precise and comprehensible explanation of how the RKI specifically ensures compliance with good scientific practice in these central aspects.

Sincerely,

Marvin Haberland

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Amit Sade's avatar

well...what a surprise...

Time after time we find that virology just skips that one crucial step of doing controlled procedures. Could it be that they are afraid their entire house of cards collapse?

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