"You just wrote that your source was "the datasets" without specifying which datasets you referred to"
I linked to the article, which, as said earlier, contains the links to the datasets.
"I thought you meant that what you wrote would be true across multiple sources of data."
Yes, but those would be the data I hold, not all data everywhere. It'd be impossible for someone to know what every dataset holds.
"all other countries in the Eurostat dataset had negative excess mortality during the first two months of 2020"
You mean when the disease wasn't reported to be spreading, and prior to the March-April Midazolam murders? Colour me shocked.
However the data is annualised, so a breakdown by month (with Texan sharpshooter style isolation of datasets) wouldn't be applicable. The only year excluded from analysis is 2023, as given the data only went up to May 2023, it would negatively skewer the averaging of mortality (most mortality is reported closer to end of year as paperwork backlogs get cleared).
"However at OWID"
OWID isn't a reliable source of data, per my earlier remark. It is a third party website that cherry picks data sources with seemingly no rhyme or reason and is not peer-reviewed. I'm aware people find it convenient, but in the credibility fight, third party website versus first hand official European statistics - the first hand European statistics will win every time.
"if the deaths were caused by the medical treatment like some people claim"
That isn't my argument. My argument, on the article, is that mortality is reduced due to early intervention. For example, untreated myocarditis that isn't detected early is fatal. Myocarditis can be survivable - albeit the individuals would be leading a lower quality of life. Then there are the defib machines rolled out preventing otherwise fatal heart attacks. Hence my remark the data ought to include disabilities rates.
"Countries with a lower health index also had a lower number of vaccine doses given per capita."
Vaccine dose did not correlate with Legatum healthcare index and I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclusion. If it did, then it would mean vaccine dose and mortality correlate. Which debunks the 'Sweden is a special case' scenario. In-fact, you contradict this remark with this line:
"[...] the correlation between the Legatum health index score and the number of vaccine doses given in 2021 was about 0.69, the correlation between the number of vaccine doses and excess mortality was about -0.81 [...]"
You can't both have Legatum index positively correlate with both mortality and vaccine dose uptake and also not have vaccine and mortality positively correlate.
"So the absolute correlation with excess mortality was higher for the number of vaccine doses than for the health index score"
Not in the official EuroStat data versus the Europa vaccine doses tracker (factoring in reported European population count). Legatum health index was a better predictor for a reduction in mortality. However we're not talking negative amounts of mortality: there is still abnormal excess deaths in all cases.
So Legatum is simply a variable modifier of pre-existing mortality caused by the doses. Hence why Sweden appears to be lower; I guarantee if you included disability rates, you'll find in countries lower mortality and high dosages, that disability rates will be higher. Just because people don't die, does not mean they're not adversely impacted for life.
"if the deaths were caused by the medical treatment like some people claim"
The midazolam murders were caused pre-2021, before the shot rollout, in March-April 2020, and would have no bearing on vaccine mortality rates. The midazolam murder spike did not re-occur at any other point between 2020 to 2022. Ventilator usage was also heavily overused during 2020, and largely diminished in usage by 2021. The antibiotics prescribing drop was mainly confined to 2020, however I will grant 2021 did not see a return to prior levels across 4 different countries (UK, US, Germany, Australia).
You wrote: "You can't both have Legatum index positively correlate with both mortality and vaccine dose uptake and also not have vaccine and mortality positively correlate." But I said that the Legatum health index had negative and not positive correlation with excess mortality.
You wrote: "Vaccine dose did not correlate with Legatum healthcare index and I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclusion." However I linked to my R code at Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ats0x67e. You can run the code by pasting it to the R Console application after you install R: https://cran.r-project.org. Eastern European countries had a lower number of vaccines and a lower health index score than Western European countries: https://i.ibb.co/4fnSZXg/legatum-health-index-score-vs-vaccines-per-hundred-in-2021.png. Bulgaria and Romania were the two countries with the lowest health index score, but they were also the two countries with the lowest average cumulative number of vaccines per capita in 2021.
You wrote that when you used data from the COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker of the European CDC, your correlation with excess mortality was weaker for the number of vaccines than for the Legatum health index score, which was the opposite of my results. However I now edited my previous comment because I noticed that I accidentally listed the correlation values in the wrong order, and my correlation in 2021 with excess mortality was also slightly weaker for the number of vaccines (about -0.70) than for the Legatum health index score (about -0.81).
"You just wrote that your source was "the datasets" without specifying which datasets you referred to"
I linked to the article, which, as said earlier, contains the links to the datasets.
"I thought you meant that what you wrote would be true across multiple sources of data."
Yes, but those would be the data I hold, not all data everywhere. It'd be impossible for someone to know what every dataset holds.
"all other countries in the Eurostat dataset had negative excess mortality during the first two months of 2020"
You mean when the disease wasn't reported to be spreading, and prior to the March-April Midazolam murders? Colour me shocked.
However the data is annualised, so a breakdown by month (with Texan sharpshooter style isolation of datasets) wouldn't be applicable. The only year excluded from analysis is 2023, as given the data only went up to May 2023, it would negatively skewer the averaging of mortality (most mortality is reported closer to end of year as paperwork backlogs get cleared).
"However at OWID"
OWID isn't a reliable source of data, per my earlier remark. It is a third party website that cherry picks data sources with seemingly no rhyme or reason and is not peer-reviewed. I'm aware people find it convenient, but in the credibility fight, third party website versus first hand official European statistics - the first hand European statistics will win every time.
"if the deaths were caused by the medical treatment like some people claim"
That isn't my argument. My argument, on the article, is that mortality is reduced due to early intervention. For example, untreated myocarditis that isn't detected early is fatal. Myocarditis can be survivable - albeit the individuals would be leading a lower quality of life. Then there are the defib machines rolled out preventing otherwise fatal heart attacks. Hence my remark the data ought to include disabilities rates.
"Countries with a lower health index also had a lower number of vaccine doses given per capita."
Vaccine dose did not correlate with Legatum healthcare index and I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclusion. If it did, then it would mean vaccine dose and mortality correlate. Which debunks the 'Sweden is a special case' scenario. In-fact, you contradict this remark with this line:
"[...] the correlation between the Legatum health index score and the number of vaccine doses given in 2021 was about 0.69, the correlation between the number of vaccine doses and excess mortality was about -0.81 [...]"
You can't both have Legatum index positively correlate with both mortality and vaccine dose uptake and also not have vaccine and mortality positively correlate.
"So the absolute correlation with excess mortality was higher for the number of vaccine doses than for the health index score"
Not in the official EuroStat data versus the Europa vaccine doses tracker (factoring in reported European population count). Legatum health index was a better predictor for a reduction in mortality. However we're not talking negative amounts of mortality: there is still abnormal excess deaths in all cases.
So Legatum is simply a variable modifier of pre-existing mortality caused by the doses. Hence why Sweden appears to be lower; I guarantee if you included disability rates, you'll find in countries lower mortality and high dosages, that disability rates will be higher. Just because people don't die, does not mean they're not adversely impacted for life.
"if the deaths were caused by the medical treatment like some people claim"
The midazolam murders were caused pre-2021, before the shot rollout, in March-April 2020, and would have no bearing on vaccine mortality rates. The midazolam murder spike did not re-occur at any other point between 2020 to 2022. Ventilator usage was also heavily overused during 2020, and largely diminished in usage by 2021. The antibiotics prescribing drop was mainly confined to 2020, however I will grant 2021 did not see a return to prior levels across 4 different countries (UK, US, Germany, Australia).
You wrote: "You can't both have Legatum index positively correlate with both mortality and vaccine dose uptake and also not have vaccine and mortality positively correlate." But I said that the Legatum health index had negative and not positive correlation with excess mortality.
You wrote: "Vaccine dose did not correlate with Legatum healthcare index and I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclusion." However I linked to my R code at Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ats0x67e. You can run the code by pasting it to the R Console application after you install R: https://cran.r-project.org. Eastern European countries had a lower number of vaccines and a lower health index score than Western European countries: https://i.ibb.co/4fnSZXg/legatum-health-index-score-vs-vaccines-per-hundred-in-2021.png. Bulgaria and Romania were the two countries with the lowest health index score, but they were also the two countries with the lowest average cumulative number of vaccines per capita in 2021.
You wrote that when you used data from the COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker of the European CDC, your correlation with excess mortality was weaker for the number of vaccines than for the Legatum health index score, which was the opposite of my results. However I now edited my previous comment because I noticed that I accidentally listed the correlation values in the wrong order, and my correlation in 2021 with excess mortality was also slightly weaker for the number of vaccines (about -0.70) than for the Legatum health index score (about -0.81).